About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . I have gone to Dayspring in Wisconsin and Hillcrest in El Paso and both have apps if you want to check them out. If you dont already, try it some time. It became an independent church in 1746. This site and others consistently speak about folks that follow and uplift man, in my faith I want only to lift up the God-man!! Greg, For example these same people existed when He taught to look upon a woman with lust was Adultry & not just the physcial act. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalm 137:9. I hope Im helping him in his faith journey. My point is that Tithing is good since Jesus says they should not have left it undone. Not one Baptist church can show in its history a direct succession from the Anabaptists. 4. My responsibility is to preach the Word. I began my spiritual walk with Jesus studying the New Testament, but my journey through the Old Testament only reinforced my belief in the New and showed me more about God. Later, the Dutch issued new orders and allowed religious liberty. My sons group will be performing on the Indie stage at 10:00 am on July 1. When we arrive in heaven we are going to be surprised not only by who is there, but by who isnt there. I see through to the intensions of this site. HARVEY ND 58341 (701) 324-4415 CH/HM. Hope youll check it out. Desire your best & healing in Lord Jesus if not. My study of the word psalms is that it includes singing with a musical instrument. I certainly need Gods help to do the things He has asked me to do. Adulterous generally hide their actions. I already estb basis of why Tithing I believe is good (must read all post under Lynne). Later, he escaped and became a Christian missionary. A new church opened their doors here recently, stating they are an IFB church. After taking in many of their services and listening to the self-ordained Pastor, and now reading this article, Ive come to some conclusions. So, obligating someone to feel like they mustis not I believe what God wants. It tried to explain and figure out why IFB churches seem to be drying up and closing their doors. Our goal is to send out missionaries, home and abroad, that will start independent, fundamental Baptist churches. The issue that concerns me about dress standards is that the position a church takes is a Biblical one. Independent Church. The Road to Emmaus Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church in Monaca, Pennsylvania. INDEPENDENT This simply means that the church stands alone, free of any governing denomination, convention or council. These first Baptist churches formed in England were Armenian in theology, which taught that all men could be saved. A storm of persecution broke out because these Baptist preached what the Puritans called damnable errors. Most of the members of the church were fined or imprisoned or both, at one time or another. In fact, no church on earth can make that claim. The name Protestant was given to those churches which came out of Roman Catholicism during the Reformation which began in the 1500s. I would love to know your thoughts on the matter. This again cannot be proven from history. There are no rules about what to give at all. Im sure you realize all this, but I thought I would throw my voice in it. 1:6-10, 1 Tim. In 1700, a Baptist minister, William Rhodes began to hold meetings on Long Island and in 1724 organized the first Baptist church there. S.J. In his writings he appears ignorant of the practices of the Roman Church and never refers to church councils, creeds, traditions or even to the existence of a pope. Thank you for writing back. The most important center of early Baptist churches was around Philadelphia, the city of brotherly love. In 1684, Thomas Dungan started a church at Cold Springs, New York which lasted until 1702. Baptists strongly insist that Gods Word is not up for arbitration or subject to the individuals, groups, denominations or churchs private interpretation. Baptist also believe the Bible interprets itself, and that Christ is the only head of the church. 2.) It certainly isnt about our adherance to a set of manmade rules. Offers of religious liberty drew many Baptists to settle in New Jersey. We dress however we want, however, my Pastor chides me in good nature, because I frequently wear black clothing, but he is not being critical. But rather than ordaining ourselves mini-Holy Spirits we need to be faithful in our teaching, we need to teach repentance, and we need to leave the conviction of sin, righteousness and judgement to Almighty God. How many people are in churches were the pastor is unaccountable? Still today, many Protestants see the Lords Supper as a sacrament, having to some degree saving properties or giving some spiritual benefit. I find your post rather disturbing, but what I find most disturbing is your use of scripture. Of all my favorite things to do now that Im out of that situation, is raise my hands and praise my precious Saviour when He stirs my heart. Yes, we do preach not to be unequally yolked with non-belivers and I agree with that. That godly Deacon, so righteous on the outside, may have deep dark unrepentant sins no one know about. In fact, I have no close friends that attend the same church as me. However, Jesus did not tell you or me that we should give ten percent. The first church was founded there in 1688, in Middletown and was made up of many who had fled persecution in the other colonies. Google Maps shows it located in a modest strip mall in Jacksonville, Florida, alongside an arcade, a . It holds high the saving Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, as revealed in the New Testament and an unwavering commitment to carrying out the Great Commission, that is, to teach everywhere the truth of Gods Word. The Scripture: It is entirely inerrant and sufficient for all Christian life. Secondly, they believe in a clergy/laity distinction by ordaining so-called Pastors. This is not found in scripture. Independent Fundamental Churches of America, https://www.britannica.com/topic/Independent-Fundamental-Churches-of-America, Official Site of IFCA International, Grandville, Michigan, United States. Jesus as clearly as the Son of God could tells us says (John 6:37-39,43 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. God has set up a completely different program for believers in the church age. Corrections? Since you seem to be more of an authority on this, could you recommend some source material which would specifically deal with this from an IBC perspective? 3:2) for Jews who were preparing for coming Messiah and Kingdom God had promised them. Bob Just want to commend you on how clearly you are able to elucidate on a given topic, Im envious. It was not founded because a line of Baptist churches down through history. I think any Christian should be allowed to wear what they want. Please anyone readng this, go back and take a couple weeks and seriously read through the gospels again, over and over, our Lord talks about, and condemns pharisees and others for dressing up the outside and not being concerned about the inside, btw if the inside is right the outside will follow. While every effort has been made to follow citation style rules, there may be some discrepancies. They do not find support in the Bible for such a requirement. The true Independent Fundamental Baptists have no association or fellowship with these churches because they teach or practice things contrary to the New Testament. Don't expect anything contemporary or liberal. Im trying to figure out if it was worse of me for not using scripture to answer your question, which btw is not a question that required scripture, or yanking a handful of verses completely out of context as you did. Williams graduated from Cambridge University in 1627, and was apparently ordained in the Church of England. They all hold to a system of hierarchy in church government and do not accept the autonomy the local church. "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am . So far newere at IFB church (if is is refered to as one by a IFB site think) & has not as far as I know been told must. Up to this time Williams was not a Baptist. Other churches founded in New England and in the Middle colonies were the actual mother churches of modern Baptist churches as these churches were responsible for starting other churches. The over the years the growth of so many false and idolatrous practices caused some within the Catholic church such as Martin Luther to rebel, and to try to reform the Catholic church. The Puritans did not believe in such things and they drove him from their colony. Independent Baptist Churches believe the following "Independent Baptist Distinctives": 1. After Roger Williams stepped down, Thomas Olney took over as the pastor of the church in Rhode Island. I have spoken to my pastor about this, and he insists that its fine for me as a parishioner to come as I am, but he as a pastor should be dressed alittle better, I told him if that is a personal conviction that is fine, but did he have any scripture to support that, of course he didnt. These things I write unto you that ye may know that ye have salvation. These are the mistakes one finds when following man-made theology. From there, entering into an IFB church really gave me a culture shock. Tithing preceded the OT Law. The tourists and the police finally separated after hundreds of dollars changed hands. All but seven were above the Mason-Dixon line. God bless. . It is believed that God meant what he said in Revelation 22:18, the Scriptures were not to added to or taken from. I am personally done with religion If asked what religion I am, my standard answer is christian even though I am still attending a little Baptist Church. Robert Fry Pastor of Bible Baptist Church in Plattsburgh, NY Deception, 75. HWY 3 NW. I dont see a thing wrong with it; He didnt make us to be wooden. If you think women ought to wear pants, thats your prerogative. Church Directory Sub-pages. The pastor followed up with me with a long phone call, and that is when we began to discuss the baptism issue, he was very cordial and we simply agreed to disagree, which is probably what you and I will have to do. Bob So true, the subject that I simply couldnt justify (there were several) with my old fundy churchs teaching with scripture, was tithing. Lack of pastoral accountability is not the problem. . Its so important to ask Gods help in forgiving themotherwise satan can get a foothold. That shows your lack of emotional maturity. It sounds like you believe that we are not required to tithe, but somehow we are better off if we do? God said He would preserve His church and that task was not left in the hands of fallible men or groups. (II Peter 1:20) Baptist believe you do not have to be a Baptist in order to be saved and have eternal life, but a person must believe the Gospel as revealed in the New Testament. One Baptist church, however, did begin after 1714, in Surry Country, and another at Burleigh, Virginia.